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More than 1,000 high-level DUP messages show party top brass mocking the Catholic Church, laughing at rivals… and deputy First Minister’s care for the vulnerable


Remarkable insight into DUP Executive team during the pandemic after Edwin Poots handed over massive WhatsApp group – unlike Michelle O’Neill who deliberately wiped her messages after being given legal advice not to do so

The WhatsApp messages, some of which are acutely embarrassing for senior party figures, are being made public after they were given to the inquiry by former DUP minister Edwin Poots, now the Assembly Speaker, and have been published tonight.

That is in stark contrast to Sinn Féin, whose Stormont leader Michelle O’Neill admitted to the inquiry yesterday that she deliberately deleted everything from all her devices despite being warned by the Head of the Civil Service not to do so and despite being given written legal advice which specifically said text messages and WhatsApps should not be deleted.

So far, the inquiry hasn’t published a single internal Sinn Féin message.

The DUP messages are from a WhatsApp group containing its Executive ministers, special advisers, and other senior party figures.

They show the party lampooning the Catholic Church, a message from Emma Little Pengelly that the public were looking for a “strong man”, but also Mrs Little Pengelly’s personal concern for some of the most deprived members of society, reminding colleagues that she came from a poor background.

The inquiry has made multiple redactions to the 63 pages of messages, some of which are hard to follow for that reason.

One of the individuals whose name has been blacked out appears to be Economy Minister Diane Dodds, who talks about going to vote in the European Parliament, and another is the then first minister Arlene Foster, who confirmed that in oral testimony today.

However, there is no way to know how many other individuals were involved but have their names redacted.

The messages begin when Stormont returned at the start of 2020 following three years without devolved government.

Someone whose name has been blacked out by the inquiry said on 17 January 2020: “SF doesn’t seem to have matured at all!!”

Emma Little Pengelly – then a special adviser but now deputy First Minister – replied sarcastically: “Well, why not – let English taxpayers subsidise our free prescriptions, lower rates, no water charges, lower tuition fees and free prescriptions… but hey, how dare you guys starve us of funding? #Perfidious Albion”.

Agriculture Minister Edwin Poots responded: “And a £100m pa on welfare mitigation”.

Education Minister Peter Weir said: “Are any of [us] really surprised?”

The first reference to Covid is on 23 January when an individual whose name has been blacked out said: “I hear there’s a suspected case of this virus in RVH.”

In apparent reference to Sinn Féin calling Michelle O’Neill ‘joint head of government’, someone said “this must be a new title bestowed on Michelle”; another person said: “they are at this all the time”.

Another person whose name is hidden said: “Certainly they cannot have that on official communications”.

Mr Weir, whose messages are often laden with humour, said: “Perhaps I should start calling myself George Clooney, it’s just as accurate”.

The then education minister said on 13 March: “I see on PA, Archbishop Eamon Martin is writing to me urging me to close all the schools. Wasn’t aware of his qualifications in virology.”

Someone whose name has been blacked out said: “Write back and tell him we don’t live in the South and that his institution hasn’t the best track record of looking out for the welfare of kids.”

The following day, in an apparent reference to Sinn Féin, someone denounced “panicking people” and “totally irresponsible” behaviour.

On 14 March, in a reference to civil servants, someone said that “some of the officials don’t inspire me”.

The next day, Mr Weir said that solicitor Kevin Winters had launched a judicial review of the decision not to close schools. An unidentified person responded: “Read SF for KW”. Mr Weir replied: “Indeed.”

The messages show that DUP ministers genuinely believed they would be hurting people – and even endangering lives – by taking radical measures to shut down society.

But in their evidence to the inquiry, several DUP ministers, including Arlene Foster and Edwin Poots, now accept that they should have locked down sooner.

On 14 March, Mr Weir said that “above all other considerations will be our protection of human life, which the best opportunity to do so is following the professional advice. If in the long run we can spare one extra family from the tragic loss of a loved one then we will have done the right thing rather than the politics of panic of others.”

In another message, he said: “There is crazy stuff going about which if acted upon would simply cost lives.”

On 15 March, Emma Little Pengelly lamented how teachers seemed to think they wouldn’t be going to work once schools closed.

Mr Weir replied: “We could do with a few unnamed ministers not coming to work.”

Two days later, Mr Poots said he was “under pressure with CAFRE”, the agricultural college. Referring to Sinn Féin, he said: “The public are looking to us for leadership and we can’t afford to be scrapping with them. That doesn’t mean giving them want they want but need agreement.”

Mrs Little Pengelly’s influence as Mrs Foster’s key spad is evident. On 17 March, she set out how lockdown was likely days away and they needed to propose multiple measures including a single website for all pandemic information and “a stateswomanlike address to NI by FM and DFM”.

She said: “We also need to be aware that in behaviour science terms we are now dealing with emergency, war time like circumstance – ergo people want to see what is termed in political science as ‘strong man’ political leaders – (now strong women..) – this is very well established. Strong and serious, calm and professional.”

She urged ministers to be “empathetic and understanding” to the pressures faced by those struggling financially, reminding them that “those on working tax credit get free school meals (FSM}, many on that benefit DO work but may find themselves on reduced hours or redundant… and many of those on FSMs are our voters (I am saying this as a child who was a FSM child for many years).”

There is a gap of about a month in the messages. On 22 April, Mr Weir said: “Hargey has [another few words have been blacked out by the inquiry as ‘irrelevant and sensitive’]! She’s had a tough paper round clearly.”

Repeatedly, the messages show how DUP ministers were in contact during Executive meetings – not just cracking jokes, but discussing tactics and the business formally being discussed at the Executive.

During an Executive meeting on 29 April, someone texted: “Zzzz”.

Mr Weir replied: “If I was a doctor I would be calling for a resuscitation team.

A few days later, a reference was made to “Declan”, seemingly Sinn Féin junior minister Declan Kearney. An unidentified person said: “Alastair and I were wondering about his mask issue. Surely a boy like him [sic] has access to one or two.”

Mr Poots replied: “Now now.”

On 14 May, Mr Poots said: “Looks like Deccy and mates could be on the run again”.

That same day, Mr Weir said: “Thought I would make my lunch while Naomi was speaking. Looks like I will have finished eating as well.”

Five minutes later, he said: “While initially joking, I have been able to make and completely eat a cottage pie while Naomi was speaking.”

That same day, Mrs Little Pengelly said in reference to a legal question that they should maybe speak to Attorney General John Larkin. She revealed that the Executive’s chief legal adviser wasn’t attending Executive meetings “as he can’t work Zoom”.

Phillip Weir, one of Mrs Foster’s spads, said on 8 June that a quarter of civil servants were at home and “unable to contribute any work”.

Mr Weir replied: “How does that differ from normal times?”

Minutes later, he asked of two fellow Executive ministers: “Is Naomi Nicola’s spad or the other way around?”

Someone else said during the same meeting; “I wish Naomi would breathe.”

Mr Weir replied: “Enabled me to lunch together and that was just in one of her sentences.”

Mr Poots interjected: “Doesn’t even realise I am winding her up.”

Another person referred to a “really strange interaction” between Mr Kearney and Ms O’Neill.

Another person replied: “It was so odd that she was agreeing with you and he was on a limb. Murphy didn’t really come to her aid either.”

On 11 June, Mr Poots said of teachers: “They need to start pulling their weight.”

Mr Weir said: “Some will gurn and some will refuse to play ball but they are on a weak position. I think some don’t realise how out of line they are with public opinion.”

Someone else said: “I had same nonsense with health unions, it’s all about me me me, didn’t care about medical outcomes.”

Later that day, Mr Weir said: “Hope I am never stuck in a social bubble with Declan Kearney.”

On 15 June, Mr Weir asked: “Where would we be without Declan’s philosophical musings”. Someone responded: “At a shorter meeting.”

Later that day, Mr Poots said: “My aim in that meeting was to tell them nuthin. The less repetitive Miss Prim and motor mouth know the better [sic].”

On 22 June, someone said: “I love the put down on Kearney.”

Mr Poots replied: “Connor is cross.”

Several messages followed from an individual – or individuals – whose names are blacked out: “Got a little tetchy at the end”, “he needed try and bully me – doesn’t work [sic]”, “he is a bully”, and “very entertaining”.

On 29 June, someone said: “Storey funeral…”.

That was the day before the controversial funeral. There are then no messages for several days until 2 July.

On 21 July, Mr Weir said: “Wouldn’t say Michelle O’Neill is error prone at the moment, but Sinn Féin thinking of replacing her with David De Gea.”

Three days later, he said: “Naomi thinking about wind instruments – oh the irony!”

On 6 August, someone said during an Executive meeting: “Edwin you managed to take her from zero to skywards v v quickly!!”.

Mr Poots replied: “It’s a speciality of mind. Enjoying the sour bake on her face now.”

On 3 September, as Mr Poots argued against forcing people to wear masks, Mr Weir said: “Nobody mention about needing a face mask to go into the Northern Bank.”

On 11 June, Mr Poots said of teachers: “They need to start pulling their weight.”

Mr Weir said: “Some will gurn and some will refuse to play ball but they are on a weak position. I think some don’t realise how out of line they are with public opinion.”

Someone else said: “I had same nonsense with health unions, it’s all about me me me, didn’t care about medical outcomes.”

Later that day, Mr Weir said: “Hope I am never stuck in a social bubble with Declan Kearney.”

On 15 June, Mr Weir asked: “Where would we be without Declan’s philosophical musings”. Someone responded: “At a shorter meeting.” Later that day, Mr Poots said: “My aim in that meeting was to tell them nuthin. The less repetitive Miss Prim and motor mouth know the better [sic].”

On 22 June, someone said: “I love the put down on Kearney.” Mr Poots replied: “Connor is cross.” Several messages followed from an individual – or individuals – whose names are blacked out: “Got a little tetchy at the end”, “he needed try and bully me – doesn’t work [sic]”, “he is a bully”, and “very entertaining.

On 29 June, someone said: “Storey funeral…”. That was the day before the controversial funeral. There are then no messages for several days until 2 July.

On 21 July, Mr Weir said: “Wouldn’t say Michelle O’Neill is error prone at the moment, but Sinn Féin thinking of replacing her with David De Gea.”

Three days later, he said: “Naomi thinking about wind instruments – oh the irony!”

On 6 August, someone said during an Executive meeting: “Edwin you managed to take her from zero to skywards v v quickly!!”. Mr Poots replied: “It’s a speciality of mind. Enjoying the sour bake on her face now.”

On 3 September, as Mr Poots argued against forcing people to wear masks, Mr Weir said: “Nobody mention about needing a face mask to go into the Northern Bank.”

On 10 September during an Executive meeting, Mr Poots said: “All I can hear is blah blah blah.” Seemingly referring to Mrs Long, someone else said: “Flip me. She is something else.”

A week later, Philip Weir asked: Apart from first dance at wedding, is there anyone pushing for any other dancing?”

Peter Weir replied: “Rev Ivan Foster?”

As the DUP pushed to open pubs for longer, Mr Poots said on 1 October: “Entirely counterintuitive that it is the DUP are championing pubs now.”

On 4 October, Mr Weir said: “It’s noticeable that in the first school to close fully – St Comgall’s in Bangor , albeit it was reversed after three days, even though it is quite mixed as a school, the five staff members impacted are all actively involved in the GAA, although obviously nothing could be proved.”

On 4 October, Mr Weir said that there was “too much guess work and supposition without causal links of evidence, dressed up as scientific or mathematical certainty”.

The messages include regular highly personalised attacks on fellow ministers.

On 20 October, Mr Poots referred to “Mad Mallon”. On 22 October, Mr Weir said: “Talking of Halloween doe Nichola not look particularly ghoulish today”. The same day, he said: “As Declan is Mary Lou’s poodle/attack dog, would he be subject to a pet passport?”

There are repeated personal jibes at Mrs Long, some in very poor taste.

On 7 May, Edwin Poots said of an Executive meeting: “I had to comfort eat during the meeting I was so traumatised,” to which Mr Weir replied: “Do you think Naomi has been doing the same.”

On 17 September, someone made an oblique comment: “Not really a hunger strike if taking tea and coffee….” Mr Weir replied: “In breaking news Naomi has died on the 114th day of hunger strike.”

During a critical Executive meeting on 9 November, which would stretch over three days and see the DUP controversially use its cross-community veto, Mr Poots said: “Naomi knew the score took the blunt instrument for Nicola to catch on [sic].” Someone responded: “Nicola doesn’t really understand this old veto issue.”

Two days later, Mr Weir said as the Executive meeting continued “use small words so Mallon can understand”. The following day, he said: “Is Nichola thick or what!”

On 24 November, someone – whose name has been blacked out – said they had changed the group settings and “new messages will disappear from this chat seven days after they’re sent, except when kept.”

There are no further messages, and whatever was said between ministers after that will never enter the official record unless someone involved manually saved those messages and gave them to their departments.

News Catch Up: Tuesday 14th May 2024



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